Extending The Door Bell In My Home

extending the door bell

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How I extended the door bell in my home so it can be heard in the house extension and shed. It’s been done by incorporating wireless technology, while retaining my original 1980s “DING-DONG” door chime which had a great sound and an illuminated bell push.

Introduction

I can’t hear the door bell, fitted in the hall, when I’m in my extension, shed, or outside. I first considered wiring a similar door bell (it’s actually a “Ding-Dong” door chime) in parallel and bought one for that purpose.

The door chime I bought was a Friedland D117 Ding Dong. It’s their modern version of the original and certainly looks the part, except the base plate is white instead of brown.

The plan was to mount the new one in the extension. Then run a connecting cable to the original in the hall. It would have run through the extension’s loft space and under a bedroom floor.

Time passed with no further action by me, and I thought about it some more:

  • I needed a third door bell outside or in the shed.
  • I didn’t want to run the interconnecting cable through those difficult places.
  • I also suspect that the bell transformer won’t give out sufficient power to drive two similar door chimes.

So I abandoned the idea of them being connected in parallel.

I reckoned that if I could get the original door bell to drive a relay, which didn’t require much power, I could get it to short out the contacts of a battery powered wireless doorbell button.

I looked for a suitable wireless door bell and found one at Easylife. It was a UNI-COM Portable and Plug-in (Wireless) Door Chime Set (no longer available). I then made it operate from the original bell push along with the original door chime.

Electrical Safety While Extending The Door Bell

Door bells run off a low voltage supply, either using AC from a mains transformer or DC from batteries. The voltage isn’t likely to be more than about 20 volts. So the voltage used to operate the bell is safe.

If a transformer is used then the danger comes from the primary side (the mains side). Anyone connecting the mains side of a transformer must be competent to do so. Ideally it needs to be wired through an isolation switch.

Door bell’s consume a low level of energy so they can be connected to a lighting circuit fused at 5 amps (or a 6 amp RCD). A light switch can then be used as an isolation switch. Else they can be connected to a fused spur (with a 3 amp fuse) off a ring main or they can be cabled to a mains plug with a 3 amp fuse.

Working on the secondary side (the low voltage side) is safe as long as the transformer is in good condition.

NOTE: If there is a transformer fault there can be a breakdown of insulation between the primary and secondary winding. This can make the secondary side become live and dangerous.

Bell transformers should be well made because they are expected to be permanently connected to the mains for years, just as mine has been. So they shouldn’t get too hot and become a fire hazard.

What I Had Originally Before Extending The Door Bell

I began with what would now be considered an old door bell. It’s a Friedland Door Chime from the 1980’s that gives a “Ding-Dong” sound. There are two vertical chime bars which are struck by the core of a solenoid. One as it is driven through by electric current, and the other as it returns driven by energy stored in a spring. It overshoots its starting position to strike the second chime bar.

The original door chime has operated for 39 years powered by a bell transformer mounted above the hall ceiling. It’s connected to the lighting circuit via a switch. The sole purpose of that switch is to disconnect it should there be a fault. It isn’t a true isolation switch because it only disconnects the live wire and not the neutral.

In all that time the transformer hasn’t gone faulty. However the door chime has, from time to time, accumulated dust which impairs the thrust of the solenoid core. So it has to be dismantled and cleaned every few years. Otherwise it’s in good shape.

How A Ding-Dong Door Chime Works

The door chime has an electromagnetic solenoid (SL1). It contains a confined magnetic (NOT magnetised) projectile which strikes one chime bar when energised and the other when de-energised.

Battery or Transformer

They can often be powered by batteries. In my case they would be 4 × 1.5V ‘C’ cells in series supplying a total of 6V.

Alternatively they can be powered by a bell transformer giving an AC supply between 8V and 16V. The solenoid and bell push are wired in series across the supply.

Use A Transformer For An Illuminated Bell Push

When the bell push has to be illuminated the transformer option is the only feasible one. Batteries continually connected to a light would soon run down.

The schematic diagram for this option is shown below:

Pic. 1. Schematic of A Door Chime With Illuminated Bell Push Powered via A Mains Transformer
Schematic of A Door Chime With Illuminated Bell Push Powered via A Mains Transformer
Pic. 1. Schematic of A Door Chime With Illuminated Bell Push Powered via A Mains Transformer

NOTE: This method was used for years before the modern era. It allowed a bell push to be illuminated and operate a door chime using a 2-wire cable.

Detailed Operation

The solenoid and the lamp (LP1) are wired in series, The light draws enough current from the transformer to illuminate, but not enough to energise the solenoid. When the bell push is pressed it shorts out the lamp and the full potential is applied to the solenoid to energise it. Releasing the bell push lets the lamp light again and reduces the solenoid current letting it de-energise.

When The Solenoid Is Energised

When the solenoid is energised the magnetic striker is pulled into the core of the solenoid against a light spring. It overshoots its final resting position and strikes a chime bar due to its momentum. It then bounces off the chime bar and comes to rest away from it, leaving it to ring.

When The Solenoid Is De-energised

When the solenoid is de-energised the magnetic striker is pushed back through the core of the solenoid by the spring. It overshoots the starting position and strikes the other chime bar due to its momentum. It then bounces off the chime bar and comes to rest away from it, leaving it to ring.

Extending The Door Bell Using Wireless Technology

In simple terms extending the door bell involved wiring a relay in parallel with the existing door chime’s solenoid. Then I connected the relay contact in parallel with the wireless door bell’s bell push button. So, when the existing bell push is operated, the old door chime will “ding-dong”, as usual, and the wireless door bell will be triggered via the relay.

Why I Want To Continue Using The Old Bell Push

The reason is simple. The old bell push is permanently illuminated so it can be seen in the dark. See my post entitled: Converting A Bell Push Lamp To LEDs. This is the one let-down of wireless door bells, their bell pushes aren’t illuminated in the dark. That’s because they’re battery operated and the battery would soon run down if it had to power a lamp too. I’m sure this is usually overcome by:

  • having an outside light permanently on,
  • having a PIR (Passive Infra Red) sensor to illuminate it when someone goes near enough to operate the bell push.

I also prefer the sound of the existing electromechanical door chime so I need the old bell push to operate it.

The Wireless Door Bell Used When Extending The Door Bell

I used a UNI-COM portable & plug-in wireless door chime set which has:

  • 8 chimes (tunes),
  • a volume of 85db(A),
  • a wireless range of 120m.

The set consists of three units:

  1. the bell push wireless transmitter powered by 1 × CR2032 button cell,
  2. a mains powered receiver & speaker unit,
  3. a (2 × AA) battery powered receiver & speaker unit.

These three units are shown below:

Pic. 2. UNI-COM Bell Push, Mains Unit & Battery Unit.
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Pic. 2. LEFT: Bell Push. CENTRE: Mains Unit. RIGHT: Battery Unit.
Pic. 3. Wireless Bell Push Housing
Pic. 3. Wireless Bell Push Housing.

In this picture the bell push housing has had the transmitter circuit board removed. It was hooked in at the top and fixed with one screw at the bottom.

Unfortunately I removed the board and built it into the original door chime without first taking a picture of it in the housing.

The two parts of the housing have two lugs which simply click together.

Fitting The Wireless Bell Push In The Original Door Chime

First I enlarged the wireless bell push transmitter circuit board’s fixing hole to 3mm.

Then I attached the two white wires in the picture below. These are soldered to the wireless bell push button contacts. Once mounted on the Veroboard® these soldering points aren’t accessible.

Pic. 4. The Underside of The Wireless Transmitter
Underside of The Wireless Transmitter Board
Pic. 4. The Underside of The Wireless Transmitter Board.

Next I mounted it on a piece of 0.1 inch matrix Veroboard® with a threaded standoff pillar and two M3 screws. The Veroboard® also holds the following components:

These can be seen in:

I drilled 2 × 3mm holes in the Veroboard® to hold it to the door chime base into which I drilled similar holes. I then fixed them together with 2 × 3mm screws.

Once the boards were mounted in place the two white wires from the transmitter bell push could be terminated on two soldering points on the Veroboard® which go to the relay contact.

Finally I used some single insulated twin flex to connect the bridge rectifier AC input soldering points to the solenoid connections 0 & 3.

The finished work is shown below Inside The Modified Door Chime:

Inside The Modified Door Chime

Pic. 5. View Inside The Modified Door Chime
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Pic. 5. View Inside The Modified Door Chime. The Solenoid Connections are 0 & 3.

The Modified Door Chime Schematic

The schematic diagram for the whole arrangement is shown below:

Pic. 6. Modified Door Chime Schematic
Modified Door Chime Schematic
Pic. 6. Modified Door Chime Schematic

Modified Door Chime Schematic Circuit Description

The mains supply is fed to the bell transformer (T1) via a switch (S1). The switch offers disconnection of the live feed ONLY in any type of emergency situation, or just to silence the door chime.

The secondary winding of the bell transformer (T1) provides an 8V to 16V AC supply depending on the load.

The solenoid (SL1) used to strike the chimes is in series with a modified bell push (S2). This now has LED illumination since I converted the light from an incandescent lamp. (See: Converting A Bell Push Lamp To LEDs.)

The alternating potential applied to the solenoid (SL1) is rectified by the bridge rectifier (BR1) to produce a DC supply for the relay. The 100Hz ripple, produced by the full-wave rectification, is smoothed by the 470μF 25V reservoir capacitor (C1).

When the relay (A) operates its contact (A1) shorts out the wireless bell push button’s contact. That triggers the wireless transmitter into sending a signal to the receiving units to make them sound their chime/tune.

The wireless transmitter is still powered separately by a CR2032 3V lithium button cell as originally supplied for the UNI-COM equipment. If it turns out that it requires regular replacement, I will consider building a 3V stabilised supply fed by the bell transformer.


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Author: Helpful Colin

I have a background in telecommunications and a fascination with all things scientific and technical - from physics to electronics, and computing to DIY.

9 thoughts on “Extending The Door Bell In My Home”

  1. Nice. A thought occurred to me as I was reading your explanation about transformers to step down the voltage. Besides the fact that we have a mature system with devices designed to run on such; Why not have one transformer at the main, and step down the voltage throughout the dwelling? It would seem to me that a lot of devices can run on lower voltage, and vehicles and boats I think are mostly 12 volt. I’ve read where just about any device found in a typical home is available in 12 volt version. Is there a lot of voltage drop in the relatively “short” runs inside a typical home?

    1. Hi Tom,
      Thanks for being quick off the mark replying to this post.
      You make an interesting point especially since times are changing. More and more devices run off low voltage DC. So there are old questions to be re-asked and mulled over.
      Powerful DC electric motors are available for such machines as vacuum cleaners and food mixers. These would previously been better served with AC motors. Supply voltages were set a long time ago.
      High voltages deliver power with lower currents. Lower currents can be carried over thinner wires. Thinner wires use less copper. Copper is in short supply: https://newenergyandfuel.com/http:/newenergyandfuel/com/2012/04/06/will-there-be-enough-copper/
      So if houses were wired for lower voltages the house wiring cables would have to be thicker and more costly.
      That’s one of the main arguments in favour of higher supply voltages.
      That one transformer you would like to use would always be connected. There would be a 3kVA device for each socket ring main and a shower would need a 10kVA transformer. Each house would probably need a 20kVA transformer to cover the lot. Then their resistive losses would have to be considered.
      Back in the old days transformers were common in much electrical equipment. Valve radios for example. But NOT in valve TVs. I have seen a valve TV with a mains transformer. You would need a small crane to lift it. What I’m getting at here is radios and Hi-Fi might have a 25W to 50W transformer but a TV might need a 300W transformer. With valve TVs the mains voltage was dropped using series resistors which were light weight but got hot and wasted energy.
      Regarding the volts drop in a home or any other premises. We regularly use certain size cables for specific uses. 1mm2 or 1.5mm2 for lighting, 2.5mm2 for ring mains and 10mm2 for showers. But thats not the end of it. An electrician has to determine if cables should be thicker on longer runs. There are tables for working this out. The concept is that the volts dropped within the cables is kept within specified limits. Also cables have to be larger if they can’t dissipate their heat very well due to being in a hot environment for example.
      Regards, Colin.

  2. Hi Colin, I hope you don’t mind me asking for advice. I have a similar issue when it comes to hearing the doorbell in our kitchen extension or when working in the garden. We were treated to a Google Nest Hello video doorbell which will be wired to a D117 chime via a Protec BT8-16 transformer. Very useful if we carry phones everywhere and they happen to be charged! How can I extend the system so I can hear the doorbell when not within hearing distance of the chime box? (ie kitchen or garden)

    1. Hi Gerry,
      The process:
      1. You must choose a wireless doorbell with a battery powered button that will serve your needs in the places you want to hear it. The one I chose isn’t available but similar ones are. The melody is chosen from within the button and is sent to two receivers. One receiver is mains powered and the other is battery powered. You will need to get a set that are loud enough for you. Easylife sell a chime catalogue No.2127. Alternatively you can search the internet for similar.
      2. You will need to remove the circuit board of the button and mount it in the D117 chime (or in another box).
      3. You will have to obtain a small electro mechanical relay with a “make” contact, a bridge rectifier and an electrolytic capacitor. These components will be mounted in the D117 (or in another box as in 2 above).
      4. The rectifier and capacitor will be used to make a D.C. power supply for the relay. The power will come from the A.C. output of the transformer.
      5. The relay contact will be wired in parallel with the button contact to activate the wireless doorbell when the relay operates.
      6. The relay power supply will be wired in parallel with the chime coil (tags 0 & 3) so that when power is applied to the chime by your existing system it is also applied to the relay.
      7. Then when the chime dings the relay will also operate and its contact will activate the wireless doorbell button circuit and ring those new bells (chimes). Then when the chime dongs the relay will release.

      Please let me know if you find this process acceptable. If you do I will feed you more info regarding the relay, rectifier and capacitor and how to put them on a circuit board. You will need a small soldering iron, etc. for that.
      Regards, Colin.

  3. Hi Colin,
    Thanks so much for the time and effort you’ve taken on my behalf, very much appreciate your help.
    Gerry.

  4. Hi Colin. I’ve done something very similar myself but I also incorporated a small voltage converter powered from the transformer to replace button battery. 12 volt tapping on transformer gives me a smooth 3.1 volts dc. I got it online from a hobby railway stockist

    1. Hi Steve,
      Sounds like a great idea. I haven’t bothered because lithium batteries usually last a long time and the replacement components will probably outweigh the cost of batteries. But there is still a part of me that wants to do it.
      Regards, Colin.

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